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Nakamichi Shockwafe Elite 7.2.4Ch 800W Soundsystem

$729.99
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Sounds amazing. Deserves serious consideration.
By NV on Reviewed in the United States on November 25, 2017
-- 6 year update -- TL; DR -- Yes, I still have the system and it's awesome! Hard to believe I am updating a review for a tech product after 6 years. Firmware updates enabled Dolby Atmos a few years ago. My primary input source is now a 4K Apple TV connected to one of the HDMI ports on the sound bar. The TV is now a Dolby Vision capable Sony connected via HDMI Arc. The TV supports HDMI eArc but it's not supported by the (original 2017) sound bar, this setup enables both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. Biggest change is that I replaced the extra long chicken wire that came with the system for connecting surround speakers to the subs with better quality, thicker and shorter RCA cables. These are average quality not high end in any way, but they have made an appreciable difference to the surround audio levels and clarity. After listening to other sound bars, what continues to strikes me is the clarity of the vocal track and the separation that you get with the sound bar. The comments below still hold. Yes, there are things I could be improved, the mid range could be better, the system could be better for music and so on. But its also clear the alternatives won't be in the same price range, nor will they offer the same convenience. This sound bar has worked extremely well for its main purpose, enable a very capable entertainment setup with the least cabling headaches. The system has worked well for the past 6 years and I don't see a reason to change it. Happy to see that Nakamichi is continuing to push the envelope with the Dragon. Perhaps a discounted Dragon will come calling this holiday season? :-) -- 4 month update -- Added a Xbox One and have tried multiple Bluerays with DTS-MA, DTS-X and Dolby Atmos tracks. The Xbox is connected directly to the soundbar, I found that my Samsung TV does not pass DTS through. This may be stating the obvious, but you do notice that sound has much more presence and clarity and the system truly shines with these higher end audio sources. Also found out that the Spotify app on the Xbox sounds better than Spotify on the TV. The TV app only seems to output PCM whereas the Xbox version does bitstream. Overall, I continue to be very happy with the system. Now the main question is when I should recycle the humongous box this thing came in. If anyone from Nakamichi is reading: I will repeat my earlier comment about wanting to configure one sub and side speakers as front surrounds. If Nakamichi can enable this through a firmware update, it will add more presence and mid range up front. Not essential for movies, but I suspect it will help for music centric tracks and is a good option to have. Another request is to recalibrate the Bass output levels. I rarely set the subs above 2 and depending on audio source sometimes 1 may be too much. I know it's possible to turn on Clear Voice and reduce Bass further, but it would be nice not to do that and affect other settings. The problem sources are typically older, lower quality recordings. No issues with newer tracks. The subs are sitting on a hardwood floor, I am going to see if floating them makes a difference. One surprising observation - 4 months in, there are very few professional reviews of this system. Media coverage seems to be very biased towards the big brands. -- original review -- I got the ultra 9.2 just a couple of days ago and am still testing but I figure people will be interested in another data point for this new product. I am also including some suggestions for Nakamichi, as it looks like their reps do check out feedback. I have already had one phenomenal experience with their customer service. About Me - Technically savvy and very discerning about the tech stuff I buy. Drives my wife nuts even while she appreciates the results. Specifically for audio, I do notice subtle quality differences and will pay up for quality but I hesitate to classify myself as a “total and complete audiophile” because I will let other pragmatic considerations direct my decision. My comparison criteria - Looking for a wireless true surround solution for our family room, preferably one not reliant on reflections. Listened to a number of soundbar and discrete AVR solutions at local stores to get a sense of what is possible, ideally under 2K. Comparing audio systems in stores is a crapshoot, but my conclusion was that none of them met all of the criteria. Sonos - decent sound but nothing special and the playbar is plain outdated for 2017 (No HDMI, nothing above DD 5.1). The Bose SoundTouch 300 package (soundbar + sub + rears) sounded better to my ears than the Sonos, but there are well known ARC/CEC compatibility issues between it and Samsung TVs. The Sony HT-ST5000 w/Atmos is impressive but no rears. The thing is heavy, so installing it on a wall is another challenge. Went to two different Best Buys to try the Samsung HW-K950 w/ Atmos, but it wasn’t working. If I was looking for an audio only solution, my money would be on the BlueSound Pulse. Their NAD heritage shows in the warmth and depth of sound. Also looked at the Denon Heos, the Klipsch 20B and a few lower end bard. None of them have a rear speaker solution or the base is too wimpy. On the discrete side, I would have paid up for the Klipsch Reference HD wireless system if the center channel was in a slimmer sound bar form factor. The current solution does not work for a TV mounted over a fireplace. My setup for now is very simple - 2016 Samsung KS8000 series 65" 4K/HDR TV connected via HDMI ARC to the Nakamichi 9.2 and direct Ethernet to the home router. Comcast x1 still connected to the TV which is supposed to do 5.1 pass-thru. Will add a Blueray player soon. My current testing is mostly with the native Amazon, Netflix and Spotify apps on the TV which will do Dolby Digital 5.1 but none of the higher quality standards. The TV is set to output DD. It also has an option called DTS Neo 2:5, which I tried but noticed a loss of quality. The LED display on the Nakamichi confirms source format is DD or DTS. I also tried a number of Dolby and DTS test files off the net. These were loaded on a network drive accessible to the TV and played using the native media browser app. It’s not able to play the Atmos content, but was able to play DTS-HD and DTS-HD MA files. I am not sure if its downsampling them down to DD 5.1 or doing a pass-thru (very likely the former). Hope to test higher quality media soon. Room Configuration - This system is set up in my family room, with the 9.2 currently sitting raised up on a box in front of the TV. The room is not a proper rectangle, but there are walls on the left and right for reflections and the ceiling is a flat 10’. The size is around 16’ x 22’. The Nakamichi remote has an option to select room size between small, medium and large. I went with medium. The family room is slightly sunken and the far end opposite the TV connects to the kitchen which is at a higher level, so a large portion of the back wall is open. Flooring is wood with a concrete subfloor. I have the rears in a dipole config for now about 6' behind a sofa which is about 12’ from the TV. Packaging - I was pleasantly surprised by the packaging. Clear instructions on how to open the box and everything nicely laid out. Includes cables and installation hardware. Build Quality - Very nice, looks and feels premium. The LED display on the front of the bar is very helpful in comparison to other sound bars which often have minimal feedback. The display can be dimmed, which is a nice touch. A minor nit is that reading the acronyms on the display through the metal grille can be hard at times. My suggestion to Nakamichi would be to move it outside the grille and go to a higher res dot matrix display in a future device. Remote - Feature rich remote and its nicely backlit. I had no issues with distance or lag, works from over 14’. The remote is somewhat directional, have to figure out the correct vertical angle (pitch in aeronautical terms) for it to work. Suggestion to Nakamichi, the buttons could be larger with a larger font. HDMI ARC/CEC worked seamlessly between the Samsung TV and 9.2 for power on/off and volume. I didn’t have to do anything special to get it working. After all the gripes I had heard about CEC and especially the Bose 300, using CEC was a non event. For Movies & TV - The short conclusion is that the system sounds Exceptional. Even my wife commented - it feels like we are in a real theater! The MOVIE EQ preset is a very good starting point. My preference was to disable Pure Direct (which keeps neural:X enabled but disables other processing). Center channel dialogue is very clear. Wide front sound stage with very good separation. The surrounds add an immersion that should handily beat all of the simulated products out there. The final battle scenes in Star Trek: Beyond, the fight scenes in Avengers or Civil War are alive. Watching The Hunt for Red October made me feel I was inside the sub. Even non-action films with a mellow background track like Amazon’s The only living boy in NY city feel immersive at low volumes. (Yeah, Kate is cute, but that movie is far from 5 stars.) The dual 10" subs make their presence felt in many ways - from the obvious loud crash bang sounds to adding ambience for sound tracks. The base setting stayed at 3 or lower, there wasn't a need to go higher. My room layout is not amenable for a true 9.2 configuration but can’t wait to try it out, especially with higher quality tracks. For Music Playback - The system is good but less capable for music and this is partly due to its speaker configuration. I listen to a lot of acoustic tracks and the sound stage feels off if you are in the middle of the room. All of the full range speakers on the soundbar are 2.5” while the surrounds are 3” and closer to the 10” subs. So the the higher frequencies tend to be apparent in the front of the room with the lows in the rear. This 7.2 or 9.2 configuration works fine for movies, but not what you expect for music. The MUSIC EQ setting helps, but not completely. The bar by itself is not designed to handle a wider range as would be the case for one that relies on simulated surround and has a broad range of drivers up front (for instance the Bose, Sony, DefTec or BlueSound), so turning down the surrounds or going to stereo is inadequate. On the other hand, the sound feels much more balanced if I am in the kitchen listening in from the outside as it takes away some of this directionality. So capable system, but layout is better suited for movies. If anyone from Nakamichi is reading this, I have a suggestion that could possibly be implemented with a firmware upgrade. There will be many people who can’t take advantage of a 9.2 layout and will either go for the 7.2 system or use the 9.2 in a dipole config. An alternative 7.2 layout for the 9.2 system would be to put one sub and its surrounds up front and keep one at the back of the room. The front surrounds can be repurposed as front left and right channels and the rear as surround left+rear and right+rear. The surround performance for movies should be similar to that of the 7.2 system (or better because of the 10” subs), but with a much more capable front sound stage. This is something that could be supported as a different EQ mode. If you can do this, it will give music fans a crazy good reason to upgrade to the Ultra 9.2. It’s the holiday season, so one can hope right? So in summary, I am super happy I went with this system. My current testing is limited to average sound sources (DD 5.1) but that's the bulk of streaming content out there. Can’t wait to try out higher quality tracks. If anyone is looking for an easy to install and very capable home theater solution, the Nakamichi 9.2 deserves serious serious consideration. It’s a kick ass true surround system at a very good price point. To find anything better as of today (Nov 2017), you/we will likely have to upgrade to a discrete AVR system in a higher price range. And deal with the installation, cabling and setup.
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2023 Nakamichi vs 2016 Samsung
By The Diehl on Reviewed in the United States on July 15, 2023
This review is about the Nakamichi Shockwafe PRO 7.1 eARC (7.1.4ch SSE MAX). I bought the Nakamichi to replace a Samsung HW-K950 5.1.4-channel system that I’d purchased new in 2016. It died after almost seven years of service. That system boasted 16 drivers total, four of which were up-firing speakers. It did a decent job of implementing Dolby Atmos. With it, we enjoyed listening to music and to movie soundtracks with their details vibrant and well-presented. While looking for a new system to replace it, I was put off by the price of the latest top-of-the-line Samsung, the HW-Q990C. So, I looked at other Samsung models and those of other manufacturers (JBL, Sony, Bose, etc.) including LG’s offering, the S95QR. In the past, I’d read about Nakamichi products, and reviews of the latest seemed compelling. After seven years, I expected the competition to have caught up with and surpassed 2016 Samsung’s HW-K950. Given the size of my apartment, I chose the Nakamichi Shockwafe 7.1.4ch PRO eARC SSE MAX. What a disappointment! The most important attribute a sound system is the quality of its sound. No matter how much I fiddled with it, I never got anything close to decent sound, let alone the sound of the K950. In a word: it's boomy! Even with the treble topped out, it’s still got far too much volume in the lower range. There’s just no crispness. Also, channel separation is weak. The subwoofer is impressive to look at and it pumps out tremendous volume in the low range. But, its sound just doesn’t satisfy due to the lack of upper range from the rest of the system. In the end, even the bass tends to lack definition. The two rear-surround sound speakers connect to the subwoofer, where their amplifiers are located. They connect via puny 20-gauge solid strand wire, 33-feet long, with RCA jacks at each end. That’s at least 0.6 ohms of resistance just in the wire. Which says: low-power, low quality. I will say no more about them. Yes, the system features an immersive surround-sound effect. Dolby Atmos test videos show the Nakamichi at its best. However, those effects do not outshine the overall poor quality of its audio system. With the Surround Sound feature enabled, the sound stage is greatly widened and feels immersive. However, once again the lack of high-end detail translates to a stage where the elements are blurred. Then, there are more practical considerations. For example, if the audio or video stream changes format, the system drops the audio for four, five or more seconds. At first, it was confusing – did I misconfigure something? Once I figured out what was going on, it ended up being a real irritation: you will lose the first part of the audio of any program when a format change occurs. Nakamichi brags about their Bluetooth 5.0 with aptX HD. However, I heard slight crackling and other effects during audio playback over BT that I’ve not heard with any other devices. Is volume control important? Strangely, using the controls on the remote or soundbar, the volume steps up and down, two units at a time (0, 2, 4, 6, 8, etc.) When changing the volume level over Bluetooth, the steps are four units at a time (0, 4, 8, 12, 16, etc.) However, each graduation is about 6 dB, which, especially, on the low end, is far too large. I frequently found that the sound was either that little bit too loud, or that little bit too soft, and there was nothing I could do about it. All because somebody didn’t want to deliver a control with any finer graduation. On an all-digital system, finer control costs nothing – it’s simply a bad design. And, speaking of controls, most of them lack range. For example, there isn’t a really meaningful difference between full and low settings for center channel volume, treble, back-surround or side tweeters. Finally, there’s the remote control. There is real virtue in being able to control every feature of a device without having to use another smart device, like a smartphone or a tablet. That everything about the system that can be configured is accessible via the remote is pretty cool. However, the Nakamichi remote control is poorly laid out, its instructions are difficult to understand, and the display on the soundbar presents text in a non-intuitive way. I found myself referring back to the manual (on my smartphone), time after time to try to figure out what was being displayed. In the end, it was a whole lot of work for very little reward. Summary: 2016 Samsung HW-K950: 4.5/5.0 2023 Nakamichi Shockwafe PRO 7.1 eARC: 1.5/5.0

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