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akount91


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I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious

dougpaw57


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akount91 wrote:I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious



RADAR works on timing how long it takes for a signal to travel to an object and return to the receiver. At extended ranges, you can pick up the RADAR when you are still too far away for the receiver to get a signal back.

mcghee358


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akount91 wrote:I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious



You're right. If you're alone and shot with Laser you're pretty much done.

If you're on a crowded highway and the cop is shooting laser quickly ahead of you, you might read the laser hit of someone else.

However the odds of speeding in dense traffic is like zero, and you deserve a ticket.

In my experience as a Radar Detector owner, RADAR is about 90-95% of what I experience.

Escort is a good brand, this is a good price for a new one.

messing


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akount91 wrote:I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious



I had this model for years, great radar detector. They advertise LIDAR as well, but I never had it hit. Can't say if thats because there just wasn't any laser around or because it didn't pick it up (mainly used in AZ/CA/UT/CO/NV).

On the radar side, I think Escort is the best brand out there and this is an great price for an 8500 if you're cool if older technology. If you want new technology, be prepared to drop 3x the cost

jtvern


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akount91 wrote:I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious


You are correct. If a cop hits you with a laser its too late. You will get false alerts when the sun hits your detector just right. This is really useful only as a radar detector. Useful when a cop targets a car in your vicinity. Slow down and hope he wasn't aiming at your car specifically. Add Waze for more protection.


geo8rge


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Beyond the laser issue, collision avoidance in cars use the same radar spectrum as police radars, so you will get false positives. I have an older version it also alerts at certain businesses that use the same spectrum.

How effective is the new one at avoiding false alerts?

I do not see mention of software updates? It would seem this is a device that would benefit from periodic updates.

One observation from my use is that even if you get snagged, being able to drop down to 35 from 50 in a 25 might get you off with a warning. On the highway, it alerts too much, but I really don't drive much faster than other drivers around me, which avoids all problems on the Garden State.


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ganach


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Not only are there car collision avoidance systems that produce so many false alarms, newer upscale vehicles are using an HV gas discharge taillights/brakelights which false "Laser" the detector. My 8500 has become a desk paper weight. My older gen 7500 has better false prevention, due to it being less sensitive, which of course, also means less range.

bowlingb


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ganach wrote:Not only are there car collision avoidance systems that produce so many false alarms, newer upscale vehicles are using an HV gas discharge taillights/brakelights which false "Laser" the detector. My 8500 has become a desk paper weight.


Same here. Bought one of these here about a year ago. Gave up on it after two months. Too many false positives, even with the latest firmware and all of the filtering turned up.

delegatedabsents


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messing wrote:I had this model for years, great radar detector. They advertise LIDAR as well, but I never had it hit. Can't say if thats because there just wasn't any laser around or because it didn't pick it up (mainly used in AZ/CA/UT/CO/NV).

On the radar side, I think Escort is the best brand out there and this is an great price for an 8500 if you're cool if older technology. If you want new technology, be prepared to drop 3x the cost



Clearly you've never heard of or experienced a Valentine 1. Check out http://www.valentine1.com These are a little pricey, but in my experience, has paid for itself. I own 3 Valentine 1 detectors. One in my Nissan, Acura and Aston Martin. I've owned Escort before, but found they were not reliable. I'd see cops sitting on the side of the road running speed traps, but the Escorts would never alert. My wife got a ticket with her Escort. The thing never even went off when she was hit with laser. Also had the same problem with Whistler (various models).

Good luck!

allanace16


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I've had one of these off of Woot for about a year. I've found it useful, but I'm sure there's situations where it would be less so. I'm driving overwhelmingly highway, where most of the highways are flat and straight. So the range where this picks up signal goes pretty far. Also my experience has most of the collision/blind spot radar systems on a different radar band than law enforcement around here (no laser yet). So it suits my driving fine. Using this and Waze together (and paying attention), it's pretty effective. If it's saved me one ticket (and I'm almost certain it's been more than that) it's already paid itself off given our ticket fines. Good radar detector to get your feet wet and see if you want to invest more.

onefastbob


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This device is for speeding
which is speed limit exceeding.
Please obey the rules
and don't be fools.
Something I'll not be needing.

Freedom1955


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I drive over the speed limit all the time although only 5 mph over. Haven't got a ticket in 40 years.

onefastbob


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Freedom1955 wrote:I drive over the speed limit all the time although only 5 mph over. Haven't got a ticket in 40 years.

I pretty much do the same thing. Not a single ticket in about 45 years.

LordBling


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onefastbob wrote:I pretty much do the same thing. Not a single ticket in about 45 years.



Annnnnnd you both just cursed yourselves.

ThunderThighs


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LordBling wrote:Annnnnnd you both just cursed yourselves.


I was thinking the same thing. LOL


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onefastbob


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LordBling wrote:Annnnnnd you both just cursed yourselves.

Yes, but I knocked on wood. LOL

dss2000


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I have been using this for (5)years in New England... where 99% of State/Local use RADAR (Ka Band). I have only encountered LIDAR(Laser) maybe 3 times total.

I am a "spirited" but courteous driver, averaging 35K miles/year and have seen (1)speeding ticket... poor judgement on my part. If you are doing the speed limit in New England, YOU might be the dangerous driver.

You can also shut off other bands to avoid false alerts (primarily X band from alarm systems). I actually have X and K shut off.

This is the best sub $200 Radar detector that you will find. If just one of your (3)cars is an Aston Martin... you may easily justify spending the extra money on the superior Valentine 1 (~$400). Not jealous or anything.

KraigR


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I have two of these in each of my vehicles. I find the range to be very good with KA band on the highway setting. I get alerted to NYS Troopers about 2.5 miles away on straight flat roads, which is more than enough time to slow down and switch lanes. I think this is a fantastic price because I paid about $100 more a few years ago. I would purchase this over any other cheap radar. My next radar will be a newer version but this is a great option for somebody who does not have one and does not want to spend a lot of money.

dgalier


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I've had this detector for many years. But I don't use it anymore. I find that Waze provides better results (for highway travel)

punkinpolo69


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akount91 wrote:I thought if you get hit by laser it's too late already? What is this detecting the slight chance that a laser like bounces off the shiny car next to you and hasn't hit you yet? in which case the cop already decided you weren't going as fast as the other car and shouldn't be pulled over.. Just curious



I have actually been lasered several times and luckily I have the X50 Blue display model.

In my experience, here's what I think goes down sometimes: the cop will shoot you with laser, gets his instant reading, let's say it's 92 in a 60 with relatively dense traffic, he may think "that doesn't seem right." and re-laser you to check your speed again. It may then read 72, which he will then check again, just to be sure, and it may register 68 (the ol' "8 or under, you're fine, 9 and over, you're mine!" rule), and you go on your merry way. The first hit gives you time to brake immediately upon hearing the extremely loud and alerting laser alert, bringing your speed to, let's say.. 72. You get it. No ticket. (And yes, this has happened to..a friend.. on multiple occasions, otherwise I'd not have the 'knowledge.')

jetboy747


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I drive as fast as I want. Sometimes a cop will pull me over, and I'll say to them "Do you have any idea of who you're messing with, pal?? I'll have your badge!!". After that, they normally just tell me to have a nice day, and send me on my way.