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HP Desktops & AOC Monitors

An HP Desktop is like a woman. No, wait, that's sexist. An HP Desktop is like an old man. No, wait, that's ageist. An HP Desktop is like a sheep. No, wait, that's speciest. An HP Desktop is like the wind. No, wait, that's sentienciest. Okay, what about this: an HP desktop is like a computer. Is that good? Please?

mgraiziger


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I hate myself for having to ask this but can anyone tell me about the gaming potential of these computers? Specifically the quad cores with the Radeon HD 7660D or Radeon HD 7560D graphics cards.

cjsutherland


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If anyone is looking at the 6 core AMD machines. If you do not spend the extra $10 or so for the better CPU, GPU, HD, and power supply you are a fool (with all due respect...lol).

Better CPU, better GPU, 500GB more on the HD, and 160W more on the HD all for $10...

lorenzodemedici


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I got the H8-1417C the last time Woot had these. It looked brand new when I took it out of the box, and it hasn't had any problems at all other than issues with Windows 8, which isn't HP's fault. I spent a couple hundred more and have 28GB of RAM and 6TB of disk storage. That should be enough to last for a while. Not a gamer so I haven't been able to put any stress at all on the CPU or the graphics card. They run at about 5% of capacity typically. Photo editing in Photoshop is pretty much instantaneous; my old machine which was no slouch would take a second or two to process a 25MB photo file. This one doesn't. I suspect it would be pretty good for gaming but I'm talking about the most expensive one they're offering. Can't say about the others. BTW, the AOC 27 inch IPS monitor is quite good for the price; this one on Woot is the old model; if you want the current model you can find it here:

http://www.amazon.com/AOC-i2769Vm-27-Inch-Screen-Monitor/dp/B00CLZ04VW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1374830388&sr=8-6&keywords=aoc+ips+27

Ninkumpoop


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Another thing to consider: the cost of a SquareTrade extended warranty. I was able to buy the expired moofi deal and a three year warranty was $69.99 for 3 years vs. $75.99 for 1 year. Not quite as good a deal on the computer, but great value on the warranty.

http://moofi.woot.com/offers/hp-six-core-desktop-w-10gb-ram-2tb-hd-2

chaosmonkey


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I got a refurb P7-1414 a short while ago from another merchant that's very similar to a lot of these machines. Quad-core, 3.2GHz, 6GB RAM. I'd like to up the RAM at some point, but I run BORDERLANDS 2 full-blast and it's great. I wish the APU was upgradeable to something past quad-core but I've got lots of gaming to catch up on that won't need anything tougher. and I'm still not going back to consoles after this.

ozzallos


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The AMD quad core refurb deals (P6-2427C) aren't exactly unique price points around the interwebs once tax comes into play (turns an awesome deal into a meh deal), but it's still decent and has a 90 day factory warranty.

The base hardware should be able to handle anything you throw at, with the integrated APU (A8-5500 chipset) being the only weak point in terms of gaming. Reviews still say it will handle 1080p without issues and most modern games at mid to low settings. I have a ge650 to throw in, so it'll make for a nice machine for damn near everything.

People have even overclocked these things to nearly 4ghz, so it's not exactly without potential. In for one.

nbneill24


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Anyone have any knowledge about replacing the hard drive? I'm thinking about purchasing the Envy i7 and replacing its 2TB hard drive with a solid state drive as the primary HD. My question is: can I reinstall factory Windows 8 on a new HD? There doesn't appear to be an OS CD in the box. Does HP/Windows allow me to download the OS from them and create a bootable CD or USB?

Any one have any experience here?

ozzallos


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nbneill24 wrote:Anyone have any knowledge about replacing the hard drive? I'm thinking about purchasing the Envy i7 and replacing its 2TB hard drive with a solid state drive as the primary HD. My question is: can I reinstall factory Windows 8 on a new HD? There doesn't appear to be an OS CD in the box. Does HP/Windows allow me to download the OS from them and create a bootable CD or USB?

Any one have any experience here?



I'd bet against OS CDs as well. You'll probably get a restore partition like most laptops. You could probably image the entire goddamn HDD over to the SSD. Plug them both into the computer at the same time, image the drive over (using, say, Norton Ghost or something open source), power down, revert the SATA HDD to slave and the SSD to master.

Secondly, you might be able to simply copy the restore partition (assuming one exists) to the new SSD and simply rebuild. That's theoretical and Windows might have a problem with drive letters and such in both cases, but work arounds are easily found on google.

Best I can think of ATM

cjsutherland


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chaosmonkey wrote:I got a refurb P7-1414 a short while ago from another merchant that's very similar to a lot of these machines. Quad-core, 3.2GHz, 6GB RAM. I'd like to up the RAM at some point, but I run BORDERLANDS 2 full-blast and it's great. I wish the APU was upgradeable to something past quad-core but I've got lots of gaming to catch up on that won't need anything tougher. and I'm still not going back to consoles after this.



AMD was nice enough to make their latest APU's FM2 sockets. In other words, they will fit the motherboard you currently have. So if you are are looking to upgrade research AMD new APU (i.e. A10-6800K is the best new one out).

Just a FYI.

bikereric


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AHHHHHhhhhh! enough with the windows 8! Throw us a bone with some refurbed windows 7 models!!!!!!!

chaosmonkey


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cjsutherland wrote:AMD was nice enough to make their latest APU's FM2 sockets. In other words, they will fit the motherboard you currently have. So if you are are looking to upgrade research AMD new APU (i.e. A10-6800K is the best new one out).

Just a FYI.



I hope "fitting" means "working" :P But if an FM2 is an FM2 is an FM2 then I'll be set should an upgrade opportunity arise. Thanks for your time!

Oh, PS: I jumped from Windows XP to Windows 8 and I'm just fine with it. Stardock's START8 helps a lot. The only Metro apps I use are Netflix, Comixology, and Kindle.

duxbak99


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Poll for those in the know:
I'm still on an aging 32-bit XP machine nearing end-of-life, so it's time to upgrade.

I want space for my music and, especially, photos (since the latter are getting bigger by the minute with two kids in the home). I don't need the latest and greatest in gaming (Skyrim with normal settings would be the most I would tax the new system with).

Therefore, should I go for the i5 with less RAM and less max RAM or the P7-1467C with 12 GB of RAM (the $30 difference is inconsequential). BTW, I am planning on changing the boot to an SSD in any case for faster boot and performance.

I would love your opinions!

cjsutherland


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chaosmonkey wrote:I hope "fitting" means "working" :P But if an FM2 is an FM2 is an FM2 then I'll be set should an upgrade opportunity arise. Thanks for your time!

Oh, PS: I jumped from Windows XP to Windows 8 and I'm just fine with it. Stardock's START8 helps a lot. The only Metro apps I use are Netflix, Comixology, and Kindle.



Haha. Yes it also meant "working."

cjsutherland


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duxbak99 wrote:Poll for those in the know:
I'm still on an aging 32-bit XP machine nearing end-of-life, so it's time to upgrade.

I want space for my music and, especially, photos (since the latter are getting bigger by the minute with two kids in the home). I don't need the latest and greatest in gaming (Skyrim with normal settings would be the most I would tax the new system with).

Therefore, should I go for the i5 with less RAM and less max RAM or the P7-1467C with 12 GB of RAM (the $30 difference is inconsequential). BTW, I am planning on changing the boot to an SSD in any case for faster boot and performance.

I would love your opinions!



The i5 is easily the better CPU but the APU chip (CPU/GPU combo chip) in the other (A10-5700) has better integrated graphics than the dedicated GPU in the i5.

So, IMO, if your only modification is going to be adding a SSD I would go with the P7 machine that has the AMD A10-5700 APU in it. The CPU is powerful enough to do most anything you want and the added graphics will come in handy for Skyrim.

As far as Skyrim these show you on "medium" settings what FPS you will get. Use the A10-5800K line as it has the same integraded graphics as the A10-5700 listed here.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6332/50123.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6332/50124.png

lorenzodemedici


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nbneill24 wrote:Anyone have any knowledge about replacing the hard drive? I'm thinking about purchasing the Envy i7 and replacing its 2TB hard drive with a solid state drive as the primary HD. My question is: can I reinstall factory Windows 8 on a new HD? There doesn't appear to be an OS CD in the box. Does HP/Windows allow me to download the OS from them and create a bootable CD or USB?

Any one have any experience here?



You have an open bay inside the machine, you could add the SSD along side the HDD and keep both. No, you don't get any system disks or recovery disks at all, nor can you download them from HP. The HDD has a recovery partition which contains the data to restore the computer to how it came out of the box. When you do the initial setup on the computer it will encourage you to create system recovery files using the Windows utility. That's about 10GB which you can put on DVDs or a flash drive. You should be able to restore the OS to your SSD using the system recovery files. You can also create a system image using the backup and restore utility.

colinchout


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Anyone can offer the knowledge about the (+) and (-) of these IPS LED monitors ?
I'm mulling between this AOC 27 refur.ips monitor ($229.00) VS the 27 LED superslim Samsung ($279),new with 1 yr warr. at Costco .
Many thanks.

duxbak99


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cjsutherland wrote:The i5 is easily the better CPU but the APU chip (CPU/GPU combo chip) in the other (A10-5700) has better integrated graphics than the dedicated GPU in the i5.

So, IMO, if your only modification is going to be adding a SSD I would go with the P7 machine that has the AMD A10-5700 APU in it. The CPU is powerful enough to do most anything you want and the added graphics will come in handy for Skyrim.

As far as Skyrim these show you on "medium" settings what FPS you will get. Use the A10-5800K line as it has the same integraded graphics as the A10-5700 listed here.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6332/50123.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6332/50124.png



Thanks a ton! It's really made the choice easier (I was leaning in that direction, but this will help me stop vacilating). I knew I could count on the Woot! brain!

cursedenvy


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The HP 3520 Printer has 3 stars on amazon. Seems to have many complaints on paper jams. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Deskjet-3520-All-One/dp/B008N187I0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

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cursedenvy wrote:The HP 3520 Printer has 3 stars on amazon. Seems to have many complaints on paper jams. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Deskjet-3520-All-One/dp/B008N187I0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


A wooter posted this on the HP 4620 printer we sold recently. Maybe the same thing will solve it for this printer?

jpwebb5 wrote:I have one of these. Until I figured out the system, I had those paper jams everywhere, too (this thing has a paper fetish). When you hit 'print', you have to go into 'Properties', and look under the 'paper/quality' tab. It will smugly give you a drop down menu for every kind of paper that your machine wants you to keep on hand for it to eat...I mean, print on.
If you don't have what it wants, you have to tell it what paper you are using (some of those listed are gourmet stock). Anyway, once my machine and I agreed on what to feed it, it seems to work well.




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realtimshady


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colinchout wrote:Anyone can offer the knowledge about the (+) and (-) of these IPS LED monitors ?
I'm mulling between this AOC 27 refur.ips monitor ($229.00) VS the 27 LED superslim Samsung ($279),new with 1 yr warr. at Costco .
Many thanks.



I decided to jump in for one of the 27" after reading some reviews. This particular monitor was given an editor's choice by pcmag, and a smart buy by tom's hardware.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aoc-i2757fh-viewsonic-vx2770smh-ah-ips,3385-10.html

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412690,00.asp

meerkat6666


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AOC I2757FH 27" 1080p IPS LED Monitor, 2 HDMI, 20M:1, 5ms, 16.7M Colors, Stereo Speakers, HDCP

I use this as my primary monitor. For work, movies, games, and personal image editing. It was a big step up for me from a 21.5 inch Asus. The view from any angle is bright and solid. The matte surface helps cut glare. I didn't like changing settings by floating my finger over the monitor icons(wonky); my old Asus used push buttons. The speakers are a nice bonus but sound quality makes them a last resort. The presets don't seem much different, they just increase in brightness. DCR mode is nice because your contrast/bright/gamma is auto-adjusted and looks great. The "overdrive" feature is strange and I don't recommend using at all(anti-screen tearing). Overall it is a good price for what I feel is the perfect monitor size.

chuba155


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Does anyone else have this problem?
I paid for a Hp laptop 2 weeks ago, the item has supposedly been shipped and a FedEx tracking number sent to me but I am yet to receive it. The tracking number does not show up on FedEX website and all I get from woot over the past 2 weeks have been auto generated case numbers and no information on the item I paid for?

chuba155


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ThunderThighs wrote:



I would appreciate some information the laptop I purchased 2 weeks ago please. I have been unable to get a reply from woot on the item. [MOD: order number removed]

chrisf711


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Who wants to tell me which one of these I should get for my office? Our old machines are super slow and its time for an upgrade. I need three or four machines, for basic stuff. I think we are using Windows Server 2000, but I need to check.

ThunderThighs


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chuba155 wrote:I would appreciate some information the laptop I purchased 2 weeks ago please. I have been unable to get a reply from woot on the item. [MOD: order number removed]

Sorry for the delay. I looks like it's moving towards you now.



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Pulled the trigger on HP Pavilion P7-1534 Windows 8 8GB Ram Desktop to replace my Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP 2GB RAM machine.

Hopefully I'll be able to drive my two printers (HP 1022 and Sony DPP-EX5), and install MS Office and Adobe Photoshop.

I'll be a happy camper.