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VIZIO 70" 1080p LED Smart TV with Wi-Fi

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lichme


quality posts: 2663 Private Messages lichme

Here is a CNet video review

lichme


quality posts: 2663 Private Messages lichme

Ulquiorra


quality posts: 1 Private Messages Ulquiorra

4.4 stars on Amazon, $1,698 - http://tinyurl.com/q73tjl7

Cheapest Google could find is $1,422 - http://tinyurl.com/ngcaa27

lichme


quality posts: 2663 Private Messages lichme

More info and such on the Product Page

conanthelibrarian


quality posts: 3128 Private Messages conanthelibrarian

TONS of very good reviews (4.6 out of 5.0) over at bestbuy.com

conanthelibrarian


quality posts: 3128 Private Messages conanthelibrarian

Solid reviews (3.8 out of 5.0) over at costco.com

zirotti


quality posts: 0 Private Messages zirotti

You can get the same model from Costco, new, for $1,679.99. For the the last month, they had a $200 rebate and it was less than $1500.

Also, Costco extends the manuf. warranty to 2 years and you can buy a Squaretrade 3 yr warranty (for total of 5 years) for $99. Looks like only a 1 year Squaretrade warranty from Woot is $199.

I think the better bet is from Costco here.

amiee1997


quality posts: 1 Private Messages amiee1997

This is just NOT a good WOOT deal.
I can get this same thing for a cheaper price right down the street!
I love Woot for giving me deals I can't get anywhere else. This is not even close to one of those deals!
Come on Woot!

comstock1869


quality posts: 1 Private Messages comstock1869

No Deal here. Costco with 2 year warranty thumps this "deal".

theroseknows


quality posts: 1 Private Messages theroseknows

$1498 at my local Sams Club on Tuesday, with a $200 instant savings rebate, plus free delivery (free shipping if you buy online).

Great TV by the looks of things, but just not a better deal than you can find elsewhere. I am finding that this is the case more and more with Woot. The deals here used to be outstanding. Now they are almost always the same deals you can find everywhere else with a little bit of poking around.

groberts1980


quality posts: 6 Private Messages groberts1980

Amazes me how Vizio has gone from the bargain basement maker of TVs to getting higher reviews than Sony/Samsung. These TVs appear to be quality these days. My next will definitely be a Vizio. I wish I could spring for this one today.

TheRaven


quality posts: 10 Private Messages TheRaven

You have to take a lot of user reviews with a grain of salt.

I find many user reviews on Amazon and other places are from people who are more interested in bragging about their recent purchase than providing an informative, objective review.

Buyers typically don't want to admit they just bought a piece of crap. Many haven't even had the item for a month! A lot of reviewers don't update the review after time passes.

Same can be said about the negative reviews. Some are "Item arrived damaged" and they give it a 1 star review.

So saying "A lot of good reviews at XYZ Website" means next to nothing in my opinion.

psymonkey


quality posts: 4 Private Messages psymonkey
TheRaven wrote:

So saying "A lot of good reviews at XYZ Website" means next to nothing in my opinion.



Something having a lot of good reviews is generally a good thing. I shop on newegg a lot and don't generally look at items with under 50 reviews because I know there are always high and low toss-outs, but enough people saying something is good generally mitigates those you speak of. While I generally don't trust the best-buy reviewing populace, 250 at 4.6 on average establishes a pretty trustworthy baseline, IMO.

ehejl


quality posts: 2 Private Messages ehejl
theroseknows wrote:$1498 at my local Sams Club on Tuesday, with a $200 instant savings rebate, plus free delivery (free shipping if you buy online).



Which Sam's Club is this? Their site lists two 70" TVs for $1,700 and zero for $1,500.

confused15


quality posts: 7 Private Messages confused15
psymonkey wrote:Something having a lot of good reviews is generally a good thing. I shop on newegg a lot and don't generally look at items with under 50 reviews because I know there are always high and low toss-outs, but enough people saying something is good generally mitigates those you speak of. While I generally don't trust the best-buy reviewing populace, 250 at 4.6 on average establishes a pretty trustworthy baseline, IMO.



Agreed. I'd much rather have them, then not.

ehejl


quality posts: 2 Private Messages ehejl
zirotti wrote:You can get the same model from Costco, new, for $1,679.99. For the the last month, they had a $200 rebate and it was less than $1500.
[...]
I think the better bet is from Costco here.



I can't tell from your wording if you're saying Costco still has this deal going. I looked on their site and the price was $1,700.

dauc


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dauc
theroseknows wrote:$1498 at my local Sams Club on Tuesday, with a $200 instant savings rebate, plus free delivery (free shipping if you buy online).

Great TV by the looks of things, but just not a better deal than you can find elsewhere. I am finding that this is the case more and more with Woot. The deals here used to be outstanding. Now they are almost always the same deals you can find everywhere else with a little bit of poking around.



May be a local thing, but I'm with the person above, http://www.samsclub.com/sams/70-120hz-led-wifi-1080p-4-hdmi-wifi/prod8060635.ip?navAction=

Still plenty of good reviews though

hughn


quality posts: 6 Private Messages hughn
ehejl wrote:I can't tell from your wording if you're saying Costco still has this deal going. I looked on their site and the price was $1,700.



I am not the poster, However, as a long time Costco member I can say that the b&m
stores usually have better prices, specials, etc. than their websites.

Another thing about Costco is their no questions asked on returns. On Tv you
have up to 90 days to decide whether to
keep it or take it back.

farley999


quality posts: 2 Private Messages farley999
ehejl wrote:I can't tell from your wording if you're saying Costco still has this deal going. I looked on their site and the price was $1,700.



add$50 for shipping unless you have a large truck and $136 local sales tax .. Looking north of $1900 at this point.

bbdickso1


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bbdickso1

We purchased this TV in January. For a quality to price ratio, it has been great for us. There’s some great information on the avsforum website which may or may not assist with your decision http://www.avsforum.com/t/1440682/vizio-e701i-a3-owners-thread

Yes, we do experience the “flashlighting” effect on a black screen, but we’re not that picky. If I HAD to nick-pick, I would say that the web apps are sketchy and the wireless drops quite frequently. The remote is also unresponsive at times as well. There is only ONE coax jack and the stand is REALLY flimsy...one hard tug on either side of the TV and it's toppling over. We pretty much have the TV on all day and it never gets hot or makes a sound.

Overall, it was a good purchase.

TheRaven


quality posts: 10 Private Messages TheRaven
confused15 wrote:Agreed. I'd much rather have them, then not.



My point was more aimed at the idea of the Wooter actually going to the site where the reviews are posted and reading through them so they can make an informed determination if the positive (or negative) reviews are a realistic reflection on the product.

Do that instead of just looking at 4.5 of 5 (250 reviews) and believing it's great.

I went to Costco and Best Buy reviews and examined a bunch.

Neither site asks the reviewers to indicate purchase date or much of anything to help determine if the review is worthwhile or the buyer is just giddy from making a new purchase.

It seems Best Buy has a bit more information about the buyer than Costco however.

brendan948725


quality posts: 39 Private Messages brendan948725

I got this guy off of Woot the last time it was sold... a lot of people were voicing concerns over a refurb and yadda yadda. Let me just say this:

I friggin love this TV! When my friends come over, all they want to do is sit in the basement and watch whatever might happen to be on. The thin edge around the whole thing is a really nice feature, too, because the whole TV is basically just screen space. It's really thin and looks amazing when wall-mounted.

I haven't had a single issue, and Woot is always super helpful in the rare case that you do. I've purchased many expensive electronics from Woot that were refurbished and I have YET to regret that decision.

In summary--don't hesitate if you're thinking about picking this thing up. It' s been on here a few times before and it has sold out every time. This is very, very worth it.



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brown922


quality posts: 0 Private Messages brown922

90 day warranty is awful! That makes this deal not worth it.

klausboop


quality posts: 2 Private Messages klausboop
bbdickso1 wrote:There’s some great information on the avsforum website which may or may not assist with your decision http://www.avsforum.com/t/1440682/vizio-e701i-a3-owners-thread

Yes, we do experience the “flashlighting” effect on a black screen, but we’re not that picky.



Question for Woot staff: the "flashlighting" that bbdickso1 mentions above and that is well-documented with photos in the avsforum, like this one...would that issue be covered under the Woot 90 day guarantee?

I have been waiting for Woot to run a 70" tv but am anxious about pulling the trigger on this model when I read about so many people having to go through 2 or 3 of these to get one where the screen doesn't have this issue. I'm thinking if I'm starting OUT with a model that may have been returned that I could be in trouble. How would Woot handle this situation?

brendan948725


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amiee1997 wrote:This is just NOT a good WOOT deal.
I can get this same thing for a cheaper price right down the street!
I love Woot for giving me deals I can't get anywhere else. This is not even close to one of those deals!
Come on Woot!



Where? Share the link.



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brendan948725


quality posts: 39 Private Messages brendan948725
TheRaven wrote:You have to take a lot of user reviews with a grain of salt.

I find many user reviews on Amazon and other places are from people who are more interested in bragging about their recent purchase than providing an informative, objective review.

Buyers typically don't want to admit they just bought a piece of crap. Many haven't even had the item for a month! A lot of reviewers don't update the review after time passes.

Same can be said about the negative reviews. Some are "Item arrived damaged" and they give it a 1 star review.

So saying "A lot of good reviews at XYZ Website" means next to nothing in my opinion.



You're right, we should just nix reviews all together. Screw'em. Everybody but me is an 386 anyway.



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brown922


quality posts: 0 Private Messages brown922
brown922 wrote:90 day warranty is awful! That makes this deal not worth it.



Why would anyone spend $1,300 on a tv that only has a 90 day warranty? Doesn't make any sense to me, especially considering this is a refurb.

comstock1869


quality posts: 1 Private Messages comstock1869

Get a clue Woot. Know one in their right mind is buying anything for over $500 with a 90 day warranty. People who can spend over $1000 are definitely not stupid enough to get an item with only 90 day warranty.

NO DEAL WOOT!

GreatJorge


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Solid 4.4+ stars reviews (140+ people) in Amazon. The TV by itself is very good.

This is an outstanding 1080p TV.
I bought one new a month ago ($1600 in BJ Wholesale Club, the same price as Amazon) otherwise I may had snagged this refurb here at woot. (I have several woot refurb projectors and they have worked just fine). The only problem ever I've had with refurb was with an Apple ipod right here in woot and I would never do that again. The TV sold last year for around $2,000. It is cheaper now because VIZIO came out with a 240HZ model.

I don't usually care about additional features on a TV but this model is very handy watching Netflix, Amazon etc on the tv just by flicking a button on the remote. NO need to switch to a separate box.

Since it runs at 120Hz video refresh, you will probably want to adjust the settings to avoid having movies look like tv soap operas due to the "smooth action" algo - It's a personal taste kind of kind. Some folks love the "extra clear look", I prefer my movies to look like movies including filmed TV series. You won't have to call a professional, you have access to many options right from your remote and if you read the reviews at Amazon and other places you will see folks list their favorite settings. Initially I left mine as it came, but after a week I played with the settings to tune it to my liking, including removing the smooth action. The remote control itself is smaller than expected but if you flip it over it has a keyboard. Comes in handy typing in the wifi password, searching netflix, amazon, etc.

Angle wise, some reviewers complain about NOT being able to see it from the sides, we havent had that problem. It replaced a Samsung DLP which could be viewed from many different angles but this is the same, if not better. We have it in a room with an L shaped "pit" furniture and a huge ottoman in center and it is equally enjoyable anywhere on the room.

The picture quality is very bright (can be toned down or up at will) and can be very vivid or subdued (again based on your taste). Very good blacks and dark areas on the screen. I know some people complaint that LEDs can't come close to PLASMA TVs but this one is close enough for anyone less than a purist.

The built-in sound is good considering there is NOTHING to this TV. Meaning it has a thin (one inch or less) "frame" around the screen like a picture frame, so the speakers face backwards (mounted behind). This actually makes the sound bounce back at you from the wall which surprisingly works out fine. I prefer deeper/louder sound so I have it hooked up to a receiver, but I sometimes I don't turn on the receiver and the kids often use it without the amp. It depends on taste. Via the amp the surround sound is as rich as any other quality source. Without it is fairly loud.

If you are mounting it on a wall, make sure to get the right mount. And if you are not, make sure you push in the included base tightly against the TV and tighten the four screws "in sequence" (like replacing a tire). The TV is huge and the stand is tiny, so you want a nice tight fit. I'm using it on a glass stand I had and I found it best to open the box upside down, and apply the base while the TV was upright (vertical) upside down looking down on it. Gravity helped sit the base in nicely.

In terms of size, if you have a 60 or 65 inch Samsung type DLP TV, the 70 will fit in nearly the same space because as I said earlier it is just the screen and a thin frame around it- no extra plastic.

I'm picky about large TVs, taking me a while to find one that I would like at a price I feel is fair and this TV is very nice all around. I would definitely buy it again. You can not get a better 70in TV unless you pay an additional $800-$1,000 and considering how quickly the technology changes, it wasn't worth it to me. But even if you do pay more, I'm not sure many people could tell the difference.

We have an 11 foot screen "movie room" in the basement but this TV gets a lot of attention right in the living room. People see it and are drawn to whatever it's playing on it. Fantastic purchase.


rfuller783


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**buyer beware**

Bought this from best buy a few months back, great price ( was online only, not in store on display) and after a week it just would shut off. I called Vizio and they had me to a reset...was fine for a couple week then it was doing it over and over. It was the 30th day and last day to return...called vizio again and they wanted to send tech out to replace a bunch of parts. I refused and said this is a brand new tv...I don't want refurbished parts in it to only have more issues down the road. Took it back to store and as soon as a brought it in the manager shook his head and said "another one...?"

So...beware, it looks like a lot of these have come back to stores for issues and by the sound of the manager, I haven't been the only one with power issues.

WLAURENT


quality posts: 7 Private Messages WLAURENT

I purchased a 70" from Costco on the Black Friday weekend for $1479. Most stores only had a couple of them. As mentioned before, Costco extends the warranty for an additional year, and if you pay for it on your AMEX Gold or Platinum card you can register it with them for another year of coverage.

No issues and the picture is very good once you dial in the settings. The default settings look a bit washed out - a quick calibration and it looked much better. I am more a fan of the brilliance and contrast you get from a plasma, but this TV does not heat the house up like my Panasonic plasma did.

The only thing I would say is a real drawback on the Vizio is the apps - no web browser. The rest of the apps load and work well but it would be nice to have a web browser since the set's remote has a QWERTY keyboard on the bottom side. (I am assuming this one also does, woot did not put a picture of it with the listing).

Back to the calibration thing - I recommend the Disney WoW calibration disk. It is inexpensive and does the trick for most users. Obviously the tools that an ISF professional would use are much better, but this does pretty good. You can get the before mentioned disk at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Wow-World-Wonder-Blu-ray/dp/B00462PTDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372353066&sr=8-1&keywords=blu-ray+calibration+disc

psymonkey


quality posts: 4 Private Messages psymonkey
rfuller783 wrote:**buyer beware**

Bought this from best buy a few months back, great price ( was online only, not in store on display) and after a week it just would shut off. I called Vizio and they had me to a reset...was fine for a couple week then it was doing it over and over. It was the 30th day and last day to return...called vizio again and they wanted to send tech out to replace a bunch of parts. I refused and said this is a brand new tv...I don't want refurbished parts in it to only have more issues down the road. Took it back to store and as soon as a brought it in the manager shook his head and said "another one...?"

So...beware, it looks like a lot of these have come back to stores for issues and by the sound of the manager, I haven't been the only one with power issues.



And here they all are, fixed and on woot for the taking - you could theoretically buy your exact same TV;)

dwyper


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dwyper

has anybody used a 3rd party insurance company like "Square Trade" for a purchase like this?

D

GermanColumnsRock


quality posts: 0 Private Messages GermanColumnsRock
comstock1869 wrote:No Deal here. Costco with 2 year warranty thumps this "deal".



It is 500 more at costco ?? Trumps, hardly

Jayrookie


quality posts: 6 Private Messages Jayrookie

I JUST purchased this TV from best buy as an open box deal for $1199 with no remote, I ordered the remote online and received it very fast. I have zero issues with the TV so far, yes its only been a week but the picture is fantastic, the apps are nice (amazon video, me being a prime member). Love the 4 HDMI slots because I use all 4 but the only downfall is the tv sound, very quiet and junk speakers, but that has always been an issue with me with TVs, so I use the optical and hook it up to my surround which is perfect. I understand people have had issues with this TV but if you scoure reviews and look at every single TV you are going to find that people have some sort of issue with everything, regardless of what the item is.

RichardCarver


quality posts: 3 Private Messages RichardCarver

I've had my 70 since January, great TV. Flashlighting is a phenom of edge lit lcds all have it to some degree. I took these pics a few minutes ago in my LR with windows to the rear.

You can see I have very little flashlighting which is completely unnoticeable under viewing conditions.






spacelunatic


quality posts: 4 Private Messages spacelunatic

Found a good review found here:

http://hometheaterreview.com/vizio-e-series-70-inch-razor-led-smart-hdtv-reviewed/

I'm in!

This refurb is $400 less than my local Best Buy's "sale" price for a new one. Not to mention saving about $160 (9.5%) in sales t@x where I live.. shhhh!

mambo143


quality posts: 15 Private Messages mambo143

I purchased the 60 inch version of this TV on Black Friday and I like it a lot. No problems, excellent picture, decent remote: no complaints. I am impressed with it every time I turn it on, and for gaming it's amazing! I would buy it again.

klausboop


quality posts: 2 Private Messages klausboop

I didn't buy it because I didn't hear back from Woot about whether the flashlighting issue would be covered by warranty, and because the 90 Day Woot, Inc. Limited Warranty states the following:

you are responsible for shipping the product to Woot at your expense


A quick trip to the FedEx ratefinder, just plugging in the dimensions and weight of the tv itself, indicated that it would be >$150 to ship it back to Woot in case of warranty claim.

So I didn't do it.

And I woke up this morning with non-buyer's remorse

Hopefully some folks who made the purchase will come back here and tell us how it went.