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Dell XPS 17 Core i5 17.3" LED Laptop

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theguruguys


quality posts: 276 Private Messages theguruguys

Condition: Previously ordered as new?

wake me at midnight


quality posts: 0 Private Messages wake me at midnight

Definition please: "Condition Previously Ordered as New"? So it's not New and it's not Refurbished? Thanks for being so crystal clear Woot.

ugrasse2


quality posts: 6 Private Messages ugrasse2
theguruguys wrote:Previously ordered as new?



I'm guessing this means it was ordered and returned, but never refurbished. As is, it's a meaningless phrase, isn't it?

computermd82


quality posts: 31 Private Messages computermd82

I've ordered "Previously ordered as new" from the Dell Outlet before, they're usually just systems returned within the first 2 weeks. People didn't like them for some reason, or had buyer's remorse.

I've owned the 15" version of this machine, it had a slightly less powerful graphics card, and it was more than adequate. This one comes with a 550 GT, which will still play many modern games well. All this really needs is an SSD instead of the painfully slow 5400RPM drive and you're all set. Awesome sound on this gen of XPS models for what it's worth too.

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lstaff


quality posts: 200 Private Messages lstaff

I miss CowboyDann.

nutmeg3


quality posts: 2 Private Messages nutmeg3

I brought the Alienware laptop from Woot during the summer. The computer was sold as previously ordered as new and came from Best Buy.
I am posting a link to the service manual, and the setup guide for the 1702.http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/Product/xps-l702x

fyrewerx


quality posts: 2 Private Messages fyrewerx

A top-notch replacement for the standard desktop PC, and its nearly portable. Gave one to my son when he went off to university. Now, if only I could afford this one for me.

dliidlii


quality posts: 33 Private Messages dliidlii

Not a good deal. Dell had a refurb i7 with 1080P and solid state drive with 2GB GPU for 699. This is only 25% off LIST price so nowhere near a Black Friday bargain.

bpd1069


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bpd1069

Previously new basically means they were ordered from the supply, fullfilled, and had the Order cancelled/returned.

So technically they were never opened but cannot be classified as new anymore. I order a lot of equipment for my office from time to time and have a VAR that has a view into these 'limbo' pools of items. They are great buys but you have to grab them as they appear as they are first come first serve.

TL;DR
They are new.

Roy33sakic


quality posts: 9 Private Messages Roy33sakic

Not a bad deal on an ordinary day, but around BF there have been many deals that are much better. Not just "doorbuster" deals, but deals that have been up for a day or more.

EVANGELIONHD


quality posts: 0 Private Messages EVANGELIONHD

@dell.com I found what to be the same setup with a bigger hard drive brand new free shipping for the same price http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=fndor13hw&model_id=inspiron-17r-5720&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

gak0090


quality posts: 77 Private Messages gak0090
lstaff wrote:I miss CowboyDann.



What happened to CowboyDann?

pixelpusher220


quality posts: 5 Private Messages pixelpusher220
EVANGELIONHD wrote:@dell.com I found what to be the same setup with a bigger hard drive brand new free shipping for the same price http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=fndor13hw&model_id=inspiron-17r-5720&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19



If by 'same' you mean different sure. Woot is an XPS, your link is an Inspiron with on board intel graphics...

Eastcoastmary


quality posts: 3 Private Messages Eastcoastmary

Is this good for gaming?

FodderMan


quality posts: 0 Private Messages FodderMan
dliidlii wrote:Not a good deal. Dell had a refurb i7 with 1080P and solid state drive with 2GB GPU for 699. This is only 25% off LIST price so nowhere near a Black Friday bargain.



Have a link? Perusing the outlet site doesn't reveal anything close to price with those specs. I'm in the market, and that sounds like a pretty good deal.

gak0090


quality posts: 77 Private Messages gak0090

This is not a great deal. I can buy a brand new Sony with 1920 x 1080 resolution for the same price that has even a faster I5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127831

dynamoned


quality posts: 5 Private Messages dynamoned

I don't know if I can fill in for CowboyDann, but I'll try:

CPU is in the lower end of high-end CPU's, according to PassMark benchmarks: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2430M+%40+2.40GHz&id=798

GPU (graphics card) is also at the lower end of high-end GPU's: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+550M&id=1427

And the verdict from NotebookCheck.net is that the GT 550M can play most games at 1366 x 768 on high settings (and can probably do 1600x900 at medium settings): http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html

So, yes, this can game on demanding titles, just not at max settings. As to whether this a good deal, it's a above-average machine for the price. If you need a laptop for everyday usage that can also play games on occasion, this Dell is a decent choice.

gak0090


quality posts: 77 Private Messages gak0090
FodderMan wrote:Have a link? Perusing the outlet site doesn't reveal anything close to price with those specs. I'm in the market, and that sounds like a pretty good deal.



I think that was a short lived deal with a coupon, this is a link I found at
http://slickdeals.net/f/3869330-Refurbished-Dell-XPS-17-i7-8gb-ram-3gb-gt555m-750
but the link that comes out to the Dell site is no longer valid. See the NewEgg deal I posted before for the Sony laptop

lstaff


quality posts: 200 Private Messages lstaff
gak0090 wrote:What happened to CowboyDann?



I think he's just taking a break. But I miss all his assessments, not to mention his sense of humor.

dynamoned


quality posts: 5 Private Messages dynamoned
gak0090 wrote:This is not a great deal. I can buy a brand new Sony with 1920 x 1080 resolution for the same price that has even a faster I5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127831



I'd say it really depends on what you need on whichever laptop is the better deal.

Looking at the CPU's, the i5-3210M is based on Intel's Ivy Bridge architecture, which is slightly faster and more efficient than the i5-2430M's Sandy Bridge architecture. In the benchmarks, the Sony's i5-3210M shows a decent lead.

PassMark for i5-3210M: 3,887
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3210M+%40+2.50GHz&id=815

PassMark for i5-2430M: 3,353
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2430M+%40+2.40GHz&id=798

As for the GPU's, it's the Dell's GT 550M that winds up on top in both PassMark & NotebookCheck.net's benchmarks:

Gefore GT 550M: PassMark - 759
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+550M&id=1427

NotebookCheck.net - P1098.8 (avg.) in 3DMark11, Class 2 GPU
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html

Radeon HD 7550M: PassMark - 449
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7550M&id=303

NotebookCheck.net - P811.5 (avg.) in 3DMark11, Class 3 GPU
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7550M.70625.0.html

If you need a 17.3" notebook with a 1080p screen and slightly faster CPU, the Sony is a better deal. However, it's Radeon HD 7550M will struggle with games at 1080p. Personally, I'd get the Sony as an excellent productivity machine, but not if I wanted to do even light gaming. If you are willing to trade a slightly weaker CPU and lowered display resolution for superior graphical performance and more storage, I'd say the Dell is a better deal.

Again, my advice for everyone who is laptop shopping: Get the laptop that best fits your needs.

lstaff


quality posts: 200 Private Messages lstaff
dynamoned wrote:I don't know if I can fill in for CowboyDann, but I'll try:

CPU is in the lower end of high-end CPU's, according to PassMark benchmarks: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2430M+%40+2.40GHz&id=798

GPU (graphics card) is also at the lower end of high-end GPU's: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+550M&id=1427

And the verdict from NotebookCheck.net is that the GT 550M can play most games at 1366 x 768 on high settings (and can probably do 1600x900 at medium settings): http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html

So, yes, this can game on demanding titles, just not at max settings. As to whether this a good deal, it's a above-average machine for the price. If you need a laptop for everyday usage that can also play games on occasion, this Dell is a decent choice.



Thank you, that really helps!!!
My kid is looking for a laptop, but not for high level gaming.

gotthurman01


quality posts: 0 Private Messages gotthurman01

Get extended battery warranty. Last one I worked on the battery died right at 15 months.

nutmeg3


quality posts: 2 Private Messages nutmeg3
lstaff wrote:Thank you, that really helps!!!
My kid is looking for a laptop, but not for high level gaming.


This is not a bad deal for $699.

Davidm122


quality posts: 3 Private Messages Davidm122
gak0090 wrote:This is not a great deal. I can buy a brand new Sony with 1920 x 1080 resolution for the same price that has even a faster I5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127831



Except it has a bit less-powerful graphics card, lacks this system's nice 2.1 speaker setup for decent sound, has a smaller hard drive, and has a lower-capacity battery. The screen resolution is more up to preference, since some people won't want 1080p on a laptop screen, since many application interfaces can appear quite small at that resolution. The processor might be slightly faster, but some of the system's other specs are lower, so I wouldn't consider it a "better" deal. I agree that Woot's price could be a bit better though, considering this is when one might expect after-thanksgiving deals.

fumfin3


quality posts: 0 Private Messages fumfin3

Crap deal by woot, QVC has a computer that blows this out of the water today for 669 w/ lifetime virus and microsoft office 2010 w/ free upgrade to 2013 when it comes out.

8mb ram
1tb HD 17.3 screen its a HP

Comeon woot, stop selling crap deals.

gak0090


quality posts: 77 Private Messages gak0090
dynamoned wrote:I'd say it really depends on what you need on whichever laptop is the better deal.

Looking at the CPU's, the i5-3210M is based on Intel's Ivy Bridge architecture, which is slightly faster and more efficient than the i5-2430M's Sandy Bridge architecture. In the benchmarks, the Sony's i5-3210M shows a decent lead.

PassMark for i5-3210M: 3,887
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3210M+%40+2.50GHz&id=815

PassMark for i5-2430M: 3,353
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2430M+%40+2.40GHz&id=798

As for the GPU's, it's the Dell's GT 550M that winds up on top in both PassMark & NotebookCheck.net's benchmarks:

Gefore GT 550M: PassMark - 759
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+550M&id=1427

NotebookCheck.net - P1098.8 (avg.) in 3DMark11, Class 2 GPU
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-550M.42264.0.html

Radeon HD 7550M: PassMark - 449
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7550M&id=303

NotebookCheck.net - P811.5 (avg.) in 3DMark11, Class 3 GPU
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7550M.70625.0.html

If you need a 17.3" notebook with a 1080p screen and slightly faster CPU, the Sony is a better deal. However, it's Radeon HD 7550M will struggle with games at 1080p. Personally, I'd get the Sony as an excellent productivity machine, but not if I wanted to do even light gaming. If you are willing to trade a slightly weaker CPU and lowered display resolution for superior graphical performance and more storage, I'd say the Dell is a better deal.

Again, my advice for everyone who is laptop shopping: Get the laptop that best fits your needs.



There are 2 different passmarks reported for the radeon- this is the one that I first saw: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7550M%2F7650M
The sony has dedicated memory on the graphics- are you sure this isn't the correct benchmark-714 which is on PAR with the Nvidia.

To say that on a 17.3 inch screen that 1080P resolution is not a huge advantage is ridiculous. The icons are scaleable. My 4.3 inch phone is 720p. The value of having an HD panel totally outweighs all of the other "advantages" of the Dell. The battery is a joke, because people generally don't buy a 17.3" laptop as a highly portable device. The highest cost elements in a laptop are the Panel and processor- the Sony wins on both of these.

iGGz


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lstaff wrote:I think he's just taking a break. But I miss all his assessments, not to mention his sense of humor.



Actually, he's currently locked in my basement. I'll let him out soon enough.

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gak0090


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lstaff wrote:I think he's just taking a break. But I miss all his assessments, not to mention his sense of humor.



Is he just disgraced by the performance of the Cowboys?

MichXelle


quality posts: 37 Private Messages MichXelle
dliidlii wrote:Not a good deal. Dell had a refurb i7 with 1080P and solid state drive with 2GB GPU for 699. This is only 25% off LIST price so nowhere near a Black Friday bargain.


Just giblet I thought, thanks for your opinion. I feel the same way based on what I've seen out there.

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agander1


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I go straight to the comments on all computer woots to read people go on and on about what a lousy computer it is even though 95% of people never use a computer for anything more than email and browsing.

fumfin3


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agander1 wrote:I go straight to the comments on all computer woots to read people go on and on about what a lousy computer it is even though 95% of people never use a computer for anything more than email and browsing.



You own this hunk of crap, don't you?

gak0090


quality posts: 77 Private Messages gak0090
agander1 wrote:I go straight to the comments on all computer woots to read people go on and on about what a lousy computer it is even though 95% of people never use a computer for anything more than email and browsing.



I didn't say it was lousy at all. I just think at this price point one can definitely do better. Especially considering this time of year, woot is about about $150 too high on this deal.

dynamoned


quality posts: 5 Private Messages dynamoned
gak0090 wrote:There are 2 different passmarks reported for the radeon- this is the one that I first saw: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7550M%2F7650M
The sony has dedicated memory on the graphics- are you sure this isn't the correct benchmark-714 which is on PAR with the Nvidia.

To say that on a 17.3 inch screen that 1080P resolution is not a huge advantage is ridiculous. The icons are scaleable. My 4.3 inch phone is 720p. The value of having an HD panel totally outweighs all of the other "advantages" of the Dell. The battery is a joke, because people generally don't buy a 17.3" laptop as a highly portable device. The highest cost elements in a laptop are the Panel and processor- the Sony wins on both of these.



That PassMark score seems more consistent with the 7650M's 716 than the 7550M's 449. IMO, that score is probably from a 7650M, which is on par with the GT 550M. As to why that score is labeled as a 7550M/7650M, I don't know.

Also, I never said the 1080p screen wasn't a huge advantage. However, as I said before, I'd personally be worried about the Sony's 7550M struggling at that resolution in graphically demanding applications or games, given its weak PassMark and 3DMark11 performance. Obviously, a 1080p screen and the stronger CPU are more important needs for you, gak, and I respect that. I was merely trying to point out that both have trade-offs for prospective buyers.

Davidm122


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fumfin3 wrote:Crap deal by woot, QVC has a computer that blows this out of the water today for 669 w/ lifetime virus and microsoft office 2010 w/ free upgrade to 2013 when it comes out.

8mb ram
1tb HD 17.3 screen its a HP

Comeon woot, stop selling crap deals.


Guys, quite posting links to "better deals" unless you know for a fact that the hardware is in fact better. The QVC computer certainly isn't bad, but it has a less-powerful CPU and graphics card. It does have a bit more storage and RAM, but those things have less of an effect on performance, and are easy to upgrade in the future if needed. I do like the shiny color options though. :P


gak0090 wrote:
To say that on a 17.3 inch screen that 1080P resolution is not a huge advantage is ridiculous. The icons are scaleable. My 4.3 inch phone is 720p. The value of having an HD panel totally outweighs all of the other "advantages" of the Dell. The battery is a joke, because people generally don't buy a 17.3" laptop as a highly portable device. The highest cost elements in a laptop are the Panel and processor- the Sony wins on both of these.



Your 720p phone also has an interface specifically designed with tiny phone screens in mind. Sure, there are options to increase the interface size in Windows, but many applications don't take these settings into account, and a lot of developers don't test their software with them enabled, so you're bound to run into cut-off text and other issues. I'd hardly consider a battery with 50% more capacity a joke either, since in those situations where you use it away from AC, it could make quite a difference with one of these more power-hungry notebooks. That's not to say this computer is all-around better, but I'd hardly consider it worse. It just has a different feature set, which may or may not be preferable to different people.

lstaff


quality posts: 200 Private Messages lstaff
agander1 wrote:I go straight to the comments on all computer woots to read people go on and on about what a lousy computer it is even though 95% of people never use a computer for anything more than email and browsing.



Hey now: watch it!!!
'Nuthin' wrong with using computers for that.
(and, FYI, i have probably bought more computers, tablets, etc. from woot! than you have total woots!, and pretty much just do only that. Oh, and one teeny program i run from work which doesn't even run on my tablets!!)
I like to think it's partially computer illiterates like me that keep Woot! alive!!!

Alas, that's why i appreciate the people who really know what they are talking about when it comes to tech . . .

theguruguys


quality posts: 276 Private Messages theguruguys
lstaff wrote:I miss CowboyDann.



I miss NightGhost.

ericshmerick


quality posts: 7 Private Messages ericshmerick

1600x900 on a 17" screen? Lol and tears.

Sad, really.

fumfin3


quality posts: 0 Private Messages fumfin3
Davidm122 wrote:Your 720p phone also has an interface specifically designed with tiny phone screens in mind. Sure, there are options to increase the interface size in Windows, but many applications don't take these settings into account, and a lot of developers don't test their software with them enabled, so you're bound to run into cut-off text and other issues. I'd hardly consider a battery with 50% more capacity a joke either, since in those situations where you use it away from AC, it could make quite a difference with one of these more power-hungry notebooks. That's not to say this computer is all-around better, but I'd hardly consider it worse. It just has a different feature set, which may or may not be preferable to different people.



Blah blah, still not a great deal, and yes i know the cpu and gc is not as good, as this one, but when you add microsoft office, and free lifetime virus protection... it shows what a mediocre dea this is. If you want it, buy it. But its nothing specal, for 500, it's a steal!